Evil?

[fire dragon Grenexar]

Why does everyone think that red dragons are evil? We're just misunderstood. I tell you, dragons like Smaug give us other reds a bad name. Hey a village! *burns the village to the ground* Uhh... yeah... like I said... just misunderstood :D

[Demondragon]

Sure....Misunderstood....Right. ;) :D
No, really. I like red dragons.

[Zhuge Liang]

all dragons are the same to me but chinese have a certain something about them

[Dragon Knight]

i like all kinds of dragons....but the chinese ones are strange.....i don't like them much...

[Addis]

All dragons are not to be sterotyped. Alas, Reds are not just evil....BUT I AM ONE OF THE EVIL ONES!!!!MWAHAHAHA!!!!

[fire dragon Grenexar]

Yeah! All hail evil! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!! *burns more villages and laughs maniacly* But I'm still just misunderstood *shifty eyes* :rolleyes:

[Shadow Dragon]

yes...evil.....time to destroy the world...
*smirks*

[Dacos]

Tolkin allways makes a dragon evil.(don't like him)
But smaug wasn't that evil, that hobbit (bilbo) and the dwarf's made him angry by steling his cup.
The red dragons of D&D was evil too.

Red= devil= evil= human creation!

[CelestialDragon]

d&d just typed it, you don't have to always go with the creature's original alighnment, but it will have a tendancy to revert to it. tolken made smug eavil because in most old legends that he was useing dragons were evil. tolkin based his serise (the hobbit and the lord of the rings) on old legends about those creatures that apered in the books.

[Zhuge Liang]

i must admit evil is good mwhahahahah time to go blow up a planet *fires the armagedon gun at an unsuspecting planet*

[Haku]

Why does everyone think that red dragons are evil? We're just misunderstood. I tell you, dragons like Smaug give us other reds a bad name. Hey a village! *burns the village to the ground* Uhh... yeah... like I said... just misunderstood :Dare u kidding me? i wrote a book with a good red dragon in it.

[Addis]

WHAT!?....How sad....a good red dragon....it has fallen from the grace of the Queen of Darkness

[Haku]

hehe.:p too bad for u Addis

[Shadow Dragon]

a GOOD red? the shame....

[CelestialDragon]

i must admit evil is good mwhahahahah time to go blow up a planet *fires the armagedon gun at an unsuspecting planet*
why, arn't you nice? and you guys do realize that "good and evil" are really just consepts? they are the consepts of what socioty or an indavidual find as right and wrong. the government condemns a man for sleeping with a 17 year old when he's 18, but the 18 year old sees nothing wrong with it. all a matter of perspective.

[Zhuge Liang]

hey they were heretics they went against the Emperor and Kyles krew they deserved it

[Haku]

*shruggs* what? u can;t be so generalistic. just cause some red dragons r bad doesn't mean all of them r.

[CelestialDragon]

hey they were heretics they went against the Emperor and Kyles krew they deserved it
ooookaayy. just explain to me HOW, cause as far as i can tell they did nothing wrong.

[Jacree]

Hope you don't mind me for asking, but why can't a red dragon be good? Isn't it the actions of that specific dragon that decides the character not of a general view of the entire race? I know a good red dragon, and she is very nice.

[Phlame]

Well cause of my FF ALL RED DRAGONS ARE NOT EVIL! In the FF my dragon is RED AND IS A PURE HERO! So to bad!

[Addis]

Ugh....more good red dragons.....

THIS is something that would insult all dragons though:

I KILLED 4 RED DRAGONS IN ONE TURN DURING FF DAWN OF SOULD(1&2)

[belthazar]

"evil" is in the eyes of the beholder. what might be evil to you may not be to me or viceversa. so...no...i dont belive that red dragons are evil just because they dont take crap from anyone!

[Draconis Infernvs]

Regarding the red dragon as evil, many dragons are evil, good, or inbetween, just like humans. Yes, evil is in the eye of the beholder, as is everything. Very good way of putting it Belthazar.

[Dragon_chick]

dragons have the choice of good or evil. But.....most choose evil. or at least they did in all the books i'v read.

[Addis]

All will embrace the Darkness.

[Flamer]

dragons have the choice of good or evil. But.....most choose evil. or at least they did in all the books i'v read.

well that's true... but books can be wrong! (anyways, evil and good dragons often fight in books in a war when evil vs. good)

[Addis]

I don't see why this happens: Good almost always wins......it ain't fair. Why can't you give the evil person a chance!? Wait...does that mean some hero will slay me because I am evil!? BRING IT!!!!!!

[Ultimate-dragon-queen]

Hei,fire dragon Grenexar,I understand you.As a queen,I know all dragons are good!AND PLEASE TELL Addis HE IS A DRAKE!!!!!!!!!

O,and Addis,I WILL LIKE TO KILL YOU,but,how come dragons are good,they just deafet the draiks and I send them in a cell untill they become good.

[Shadow Dragon]

I'm a Red Dragon and I'm Good.
Addis...we evil dragons are becoming extinct, good is taking over!!!!

[Ultimate-dragon-queen]

Drake,drake,you,,bad Dragons'' Are Drakes!

[Flamer]

Ultimate-dragon-queen, will you please give it a rest?? It was their choice to become evil and they are dragons!! dragons have that choice to become good or evil and just because they are evil doesn't mean they are drakes...
addis, no one is going to come slay you as long as you offend no one by hurling fireballs at people, etc, etc... Although sometimes the temptation is strong, I admit... Even good dragons have to control their temper...
wow, that was long... well not that much I suppose...

[Philosipher]

Im a human,im the real monster out of all of us <jk> humans have driven numerous creatures to extinction.:(

[Ultimate-dragon-queen]

Hei,what hapened to my post?

[Addis]

Hei,fire dragon Grenexar,I understand you.As a queen,I know all dragons are good!AND PLEASE TELL Addis HE IS A DRAKE!!!!!!!!!

O,and Addis,I WILL LIKE TO KILL YOU,but,how come dragons are good,they just deafet the draiks and I send them in a cell untill they become good.

Oh....really!? You think you can defeat the chosen of Tahkesis(Tiamat)!? A whelp like you? Funny.

No one is going to slay me?!......but I HAVE burnt a few things(towns, etc.)....

Oh, I do not think the evil is extinct yet. It is mearly waiting..

[Ultimate-dragon-queen]

OOO,Addis,I AM SO SCARED!!!:eek: Evill will be enstinct,I promise!!!:p

Addis,you are just a bad dragon,not a drake.I admit now.

[suugakusha]

Actually there's a difference between bad and evil. Addis chose to be evil, not bad. A bad dragon is one like you because you keep offending people by insisting on your points of view which are clearly NOT open-minded.

[Shadow Dragon]

addis...i will aid you....the so-called queen will not hurt us...and can definatly not slay us...

[Zhuge Liang]

Oh....really!? You think you can defeat the chosen of Tahkesis(Tiamat)!? A whelp like you? Funny.

No one is going to slay me?!......but I HAVE burnt a few things(towns, etc.)....

Oh, I do not think the evil is extinct yet. It is mearly waiting..

oooooo are you wanting a fight cause ill give you one and it wont be easy heheheheheheh

[Ultimate-dragon-queen]

But,I didn't say I will do it alone!I will find all the good dragons,and all my friends to do this!I mean,I don't want to kill you,I want you to see that beeing evil is not the way you should be!

[Shadow Dragon]

so get your almighty good dragons (sarcasm), i will get the entire shadow realm on your back....aswell as the undead...

[Zhuge Liang]

you want a fight as well shadow brilliant i havent had one in ages

[Shadow Dragon]

*grins*
bring it on zhuge!

[Addis]

Ah, my thanks Shadow.

"Queen", you will fall for you are not the queen of dragons.

Zhuge, save it for a rpg(I mean, either make a rpg I understand(Non warhammer) or join one of mine)

[Shadow Dragon]

your welcome addis, i will stand up for my evil bretheren, down with this "so-called-queen" for she is no queen of mine, my loyalty lies with Tiamat

[Ultimate-dragon-queen]

Timat???Who is he?Is he in this site?

[Shadow Dragon]

no, SHE is not on the site

[Ultimate-dragon-queen]

OK.But who is she?Another evil dragon?

[Shadow Dragon]

only the most evil dragon i know!

[Zhuge Liang]

well shadow you want to take it to an rp?

[suugakusha]

But,I didn't say I will do it alone!I will find all the good dragons,and all my friends to do this!I mean,I don't want to kill you,I want you to see that beeing evil is not the way you should be!

Flamming = bad... but I think you misunderstood her... atleast I hope you did because if you didn't then I would be wrong and even more confused. -KuJoe

[Shadow Dragon]

alright zhuge....this will be fun...

[amandaleeh2]

all red dragons cant be evil some have to be nice and some mean

[Dragon spirit]

yet another question about this? *sigh*[why do we seem to be evil....]
it depends how dragons grow up.......they have a mind for those who don't think so.
some can be born evil and others good...and every creature has his reason why to kill and destroy as well as heal and help.
all of them have a "heart" remember that........in every heart lies "darkness"
that couses pain...and the reason of this pain can couse dragons to kill and destroy....
BUT I AM ONE OF THE EVIL ONES!!!!MWAHAHAHA!!!!
my *** youre evil addis;) :p

[Zal_Balk]

Does it really matter what others think .
P.S. you are evil muhahah. jokeing:D

[laurelanneh]

I think dragons are good. Not evil. Or just misunderstood. Even red ones.

[Holly]

I think that all dragons are not evil I think that they are awsome.

[Tressen]

Ooohh. What an intresting debate about good and evil. I think that everything starts out not as good or evil, but nuetral, and as such true power resides in balence! :cool::cool:

I'ts a dragons choices then make them good or evil!

Thats my opion:)

[Chakahlah]

I agree with you, Tressen. But even if a dragon makes the wrong choices, it doesn't make them evil just - misguided :)

[Indogali_739]

I also agree, I specially hate when someone steriotypes the red dragon as evil. Makes just wanna go over there and scare the heck out of them.

They would obviously deserve it.

[Tressen]

I agree with you, Tressen. But even if a dragon makes the wrong choices, it doesn't make them evil just - misguided :)

I worded that wrong i should've said 'its the reason a dragon makes a choice that determins whether it is good or evil'

[Chakahlah]

I understood what you ment to say, Tressen. Sorry if it didn't seem like that. :(

[Tressen]

Hey dont worry! Im no good at explaining thing anyway. I often have to explain things more then once to my friends.

[Ultimate-dragon-queen]

Finnaly I found somebody that think's dragons aren't evil!:D :) :cool: ;)

[Tressen]

Dragons arn't good either!

[Dark Tear]

it all depends on what choices thay have made during there lives

[Tressen]

I think everyone has said that now!:D

oh yeah! Balance is power!! Why? Because balance is the true alignment of the universe!!

[Philosipher]

The dragons were demonized by the church in the Medieval Ages because of the way they looked and that they breathed fire. But,im not saying they are evil.

[Tressen]

I dont like curch or religion. I despise being told what to belive, and hate those who tell others what to belive. I dont mind those that are religous though, some of my friends are. Im an athiest through and through.

[takaya_739]

i dont think they are evil..

[Tressen]

I don't see how a person's religion came into topic here, Philosipher was just stating some history behind some of the dragon's stereotypes.

Sorry, I got carried away! :(

[takaya_739]

everyone does that alot more than you think...especially me lol

[Tressen]

yes well i dont like doing it. I like to stay in control...

[loc_zsu]

those that think they are more in control are the ones that loose it more.

[Tressen]

those that think they are more in control are the ones that loose it more.

Thats just not true!

[loc_zsu]

ah but it is im afraid. they think they have achieved total balance but hwen it all goes wrong they are usually the first to go down.

[Tressen]

...What on earth are you talking about? you're jumping from one point to another.

[loc_zsu]

but am i? oh wait yeah woops sorry but you get what im on about heh my bad:p

[Tressen]

I understand but i still disagree.

[loc_zsu]

very well. i know that once your mind is made up there is no changing it.

[shadow man]

evil in one mans eyes is good in another

[Brass Dragon]

Very true shadow man

[yebeasgods]

dragons are missunderstood they think they are far superior to everything else so they dont bother themsleves with lower lofe forms so therefor they look evil and about the whole burning villages..that just practice and exercise...hey dragons gotta stay in shape to :D

[Tressen]

Hey! Thats Stereo-typing dragons. Thats not fair! Not all dragons are big headed!

[yebeasgods]

sorry..didnt mean to streiotype...but come one dragons are supperior and the ones that are so called "evil" are just confident.. :D

[loc_zsu]

hmm i just had a thought! dragons are superior to humans right? wich means that humans versions of good and evil would most likley be different to that of a dragons! so yes there could be evil dragons but not how we would think it!

[yebeasgods]

hmmmm true we cant assume that there evil is the same as our evil
someone needs figure out what evil to a dragon is

[loc_zsu]

evil to a dragon liley consists of traitors and the likes of

[yebeasgods]

hmmm yeah but what else would a dragon think would be evil

[Tressen]

Evil to a dragon? I guess we need to ask one!

[loc_zsu]

i will get right on it!

[laurelanneh]

If I come across one that talks, I'll ask it.

[Tressen]

You Do That! In The Mean Time Im Guna Say Dragons Probably Consider Anyone Entering Thair Lair Evil!

[Transcended Dragon]

Id Think That Betrayal of Your Flight, Would be a biggie, Not sure if Dragons Are Adulterous or not, but seeing as how Mates are supposed to be together for life, I think that if commited, would also be a rather large evil of Dragonkind

[Crimson Dragon13]

Many people say red dragons are evil....I don't agree with that.....and Crimson Dragons are good......Though they get mixed up....I don't think either is right.....Dragons can choose to be what they want to be...Whether it is good, evil, or neutral....

[E Drago Pazzo]

All that is pretty much the dragon equivelent of a steriotype.

[Dark Lady]

the welsh dragon is scarlet.
and thats not evil.
its a symbol of hope and unity.

[E Drago Pazzo]

Is a griffin possibly a Greek dragon? (I mean I know that it's tecnichally not)

[Dark Lady]

well thats kinda like saying is a minotour(sp) a dragon, lol!
yes i get what you mean....no i think its more of a mythical animal in general.

[Rez3]

Griffins are not Dragons.

[Dark Lady]

yes exactly but i get what Drago means.

[Crimson Dragon13]

Gryphons may not be dragons, but I get what E Dragon Pazzo means...I think.....

[Dark Lady]

was just wondering...whats the big deal on red dragons anyway?
is there something specific bout them or just random scail colour?

[Ramoth]

Evil? What is the deal with evil?
Why can't Red dragons be good or neutral?
Why is the evil dragon so appealing to some people? Can't it just be the uniqueness of the being be enough of an attraction?
To be different, to not follow the crowd, to think out of the box, to not care what other people think or say, isn't that the real attraction to dragons no matter what the color?

[Tressen]

no........

[Ramoth]

Why??????????????

[Ramoth]

maybe, there would be many things to take into considration. Size, color, type, what time of day it was.:D

[liberatedragon]

The reason why dragons (esp. Red ones) are "evil" is because in the Christian Bible the form the devil took on was a red dragon.(I'm guessing because it was so strong) So all the people who were Christians, I guess that from reading the bible misinterpreted the bible and saw all dragons as evil beings, when most were not.

[Tressen]

Mystery and magic is what make dragons so apealing.

[Ramoth]

Well I like them because they are awesomely, powerful, beautiful, graceful, beings. Magical is like a bonus feature.

[NeoN]

I like them because I feel closer to them than to any human I know...

[Tressen]

I like tham because the've always had a presence in my life.

[philosopher]

The reason why dragons (esp. Red ones) are "evil" is because in the Christian Bible the form the devil took on was a red dragon.(I'm guessing because it was so strong) So all the people who were Christians, I guess that from reading the bible misinterpreted the bible and saw all dragons as evil beings, when most were not.

Well,besides the thing with the devil and the hellish fire,humans did hunt off all the food like deer and raised cows,pigs,chickens,and when their locked up it makes an easy catch just so you can survive to the next day. Geuss some dont like their property being eaten alive?

[liberatedragon]

Well,besides the thing with the devil and the hellish fire,humans did hunt off all the food like deer and raised cows,pigs,chickens,and when their locked up it makes an easy catch just so you can survive to the next day. Geuss some dont like their property being eaten alive?

You see, that's just the thing
Everyone thought dragons were evil because they had to steal livestock to survive and people who saw dragons as the devil from the bible didn't help them either.

And that's where a lot of my questions come in...

[philosopher]

Questions like what?

[liberatedragon]

I mean:

A Spirit Dragon usually has a connection to an individual. They are always there for that individual when they are feeling down or somthing of that nature, and seem to be able to cope with that human.

Well, when dragons were labeled "evil" was the nature of the dragon to be an agressive creature, and not have been able to cope with humanity?

Or were dragons still serious creatures and could have lived among humanity longer, had they not been persecuted by most of the human race?

Sorry I can only really make it a brief question, it's a This or That kind of question.

I've been so inquisitive as of late, for I am creating a story involving Spirit Dragons and dragons, and I need to know if there is a relation between the two.

[philosopher]

PM DragonSeeker,he seems to know quite a bit. Valoren too.

[liberatedragon]

^ thanks, I'll do that!

[Ramoth]

I've been so inquisitive as of late, for I am creating a story involving Spirit Dragons and dragons, and I need to know if there is a relation between the two.
I would say that Spirit Dragons would be a classification of dragons. Like Red Dragon, Elemental Dragon, Western Dragon. Spirit Dragons help beings on this plane of existence. If a person is receptive to the Spirit Dragon presence, then the person and the Spirit Dragon can interact.

[philosopher]

^ thanks, I'll do that!

No problem. And nice thoughts on the spirit dragon thing. No one can be wrong or right,it is your own opinion on these matters. (unless a dragon walks into a senate building and argues over it :P)

[liberatedragon]

So how can a dragon's species be distinguished? I mean there could be a European Dragon with red scales, so what would it be classified as?
What is a Red Dragon?

[Ramoth]

A Red Dragon could be categorized as a chromatic Dragon, Like a Black Dragon, Green Dragon, Blue Dragon, White Dragon.

[liberatedragon]

So if you were like classifying a dog by it's fur, they are different, but still have aimilar anatomies, now I get it.

[Ramoth]

Yes, that's it.:D

[Kiro]

I think they're misunderstood. Smaug does give respectable dragons a bad name.

[Rez3]

Yeah. He's the typical greedy and evil Red Dragon...

[Ramoth]

I think Smaug was a tool to make Bilbo seem more of a hero than he really was.

[Kiro]

Don't be downgrading Bilbo. He was a hero. Smaug was stupid for taking the dwarves' gold in the first place.

[philosopher]

Lol,we all have our own opinions and stick to them...i havent read The Hobbet so im not going to say anythin

[Addis]

Dragons can choose to be anything they wish. Red Dragons (most I think) are just misunderstood like Grenexar said. We just like seeing buildings......plants...trees....animals....people ....etc etc. on fire. That doesn't make us all evil.

[philosopher]

Lol,Addis,i think the "On Fire" thing might be just you and a few others. Just remember all are different.

[Addis]

Yeah, I know...But still I think fire is fun to watch lol.

[philosopher]

Pyro....well...i must admit,Im an Aries and my element is Fire.

[Kiro]

Fire is fun to watch

[Rez3]

One of my friends has the exact same views. She LOVES fire.
If she sees a flame she responds by saying: "Fire! Fire!" in an excited voice.

[philosopher]

Lol, "Fire,Fire!"
Sounds like what a little kid would say lol.

[Ramoth]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_1_119v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk762YYUS) I love bonfires, you can dance and play loud music.
Hah doesn't make me evil :P





http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp?pc=ZSzeb098&pp=ZNxmk762YYUS (http://smiley.smileycentral.com/download/index.jhtml?partner=ZSzeb098_ZNxmk762YYUS&utm_id=7926)

[liberatedragon]

This is the only time when evil and fire go together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6LWtGY-LAY

[philosopher]

Heh,ive seen better...*shruggs* all our own opinions though

[Ruberial Dragon]

Personally I reckon that a Dragons colour means it's element and overall beliefs, not it's alignment; A White could be more lustful than the darkest Red.

[Addis]

Ruberial's gotta point. But I don't think color changes to many beliefs/emotions. That stuff varies between dragons, not really their types.

[SupremeAlien]

I think Reds are most often classed as evil because they simply tend to act like it. Aside from the general mayhem, they're known for their little plots and plans and usually don't think twice about betraying someone if it means they'll profit from it.

But also Reds are the stereotype for dragons. In practically all stories, the evil dragons are colored red or gold. Gold when they want the dragons to appear mighty, and Red when the extra mighty air isn't needed.
For some reason, Blacks aren't pictured nearly as evil as Reds are, despite their 'worse' color. In most books and stories I've red, Blacks are either under a spell, or under control of a wizard, went beserk or something, but it's never truly their fault.

So calling Reds evil just because they're egocentric and cunning is just wrong XD Hell, if I were a dragon, I'd be the Copper-kind (see nick) with a hint of Red-attitude most probably.

[Dacos]

Red dragons where used to frightnend the villagers in the middle ages.
Prists made an image of the devil, to show the people how a devil looked like.
http://www.keyway.ca/gif/dragon2.gif
http://www.pathguy.com/michael_and_dragon.jpg

The people of the jears 1400 where real scared of all the church had to say.
Witches and red dragons.

Thats why a red dragon is "evil" in a humans eye.

[CrimsonDrifter]

good point. The color red has always been the talk of evil or wrong doing, etc etc. seeing a red dragon youd automatically assume its mean or tempermental at best. just a form of discrimination. but then I for one do believe reds can be very bad.

[Ruberial Dragon]

Nah. Before anybody says, I didn't originally say this....forgot who did. Anyway, most reds, blacks or whatnot are usually just sidetracked or forced to do the bidding of others. Like Thorn in Eldest, or Smaug in the Hobbit. Smaug was sidetracked to just be left alone, and Thorn was forced to do evil things. All you do with a Red dragon is catch it at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Dacos]

Red seems to be allways evil, dragon or not.

A stoplight is red, Blood is red, the devil is red, fire is red...
Storywriters used it becose red is a scary color.
If a brown dragon shows his teeth....thats not scary.
But is a red dragon shows his teeth... nightmarish.

Tolkin could have used a green dragon, but a green dragon wasn't scary enough to be the evil Smaug.

The red dragon is just a myth,
no more, no less.

[Ruberial Dragon]

A decent summary. Convincing, yes. But that's not going to shake me from my belief. Red is probably just a scary colour because that's the one that all evil genres always took on....and black, but that's hardly the point.
See, I doubt Red was always an evil colour; probably an ordinary colour. But all the "Evil" cultures and civilisations etc took up Red as a colour, giving it's place.
All of the creatures and things coloured Red aren't necessarily evil; Blood's not evil. Stoplights aren't evil. And hell no fire's not evil; without it, we'd be.....frozen toast. But still, they were just born or made that way, because that's how it is.
Now on to Red Dragons. They were born Red because of where, when, and from who, they were born from, I think. Not because of their alignment, although this may be the case in some coincidences.
Now, because of the Colour Red's dark background, we think of it as an evil and scary colour just because of the past of it, when it's just as scary and evil as the rest of the colours; we just have to look at it in the right tone, and then it seems good or evil. Like with Red there's red, pink, orange, Magenta etc. All of them are different tones, so they seem just as good and evil as the rest.

Did I go too far?

[SupremeAlien]

Thorn in Eldest isn't forced to do anyone's bidding. He is who he is and he supports his rider. His rider is half forced, but even he enjoys it.

As for the rest:
Red is the color of love and of blood. Red can be identified with fire easily as well. Red is used as a color for evil along with black, because it's the colors of the nasty things you see on a battlefield. It's a symbol. Not all evil dragons are said to be red or black, and not all good dragons can't be red. It all depends on the writer of the story being told.

[Ruberial Dragon]

Have you actually read what Murtagh says? "Galbatorix forced me and Thorn to bow under him, and to capture you and Saphira" or something along those lines. Doesn't that say enough?
And nice about the battlefield; blood and gore is rife like strife there. Forgot to go on about that, you took my cue once again......

[SupremeAlien]

Yes, after which he said that Thorn didn't know any better and was used to that sort of life under Galbatorix and Murtagh said he was starting to mind less and less because of the powers it brought along.
Are you capable of understanding his words?

I don't take anyone's cue. I just say what I have to say. Reds are usually seen as evil because of prejudices, not because they are. The fact that several of them -are- evil, can be easily compared to what's going on all around the world. It's a small group of foreigners that messes up in countries, but because of it, all foreigners are looked upon.

[Ruberial Dragon]

Can I just ask you a favour?
.....stop repeating what I just said.
And about Thorn, I can't remember that much, I only went on what I had at time; I shot in the dark and hit nothing.

[SupremeAlien]

I'm not repeating you. And if you don't remember the fact you're writing down well, then don't bring it up unless you're sure about it.

[liberatedragon]

Red isn't just evil. I've been told that red could also be festive.

[Rez3]

Or a passionate colour.

[Dacos]

"the battlegrounds colored red, we where fighting in the fields of death(1942)",
"The snow is red".(1944)

Get my point?

[liberatedragon]

I get your point, but perhaps not all red dragons are evil...

[Ruberial Dragon]

THANK YOU for saying.

[Dacos]

Not only Red dragons are evil.
Some said that all dragons are evil.
They made some images of angels that kills a dragon:
http://static.flickr.com/42/79249589_e1e45ebc3f.jpg
http://ldolphin.org/dragon1.gif
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[liberatedragon]

I know that too. Dragons were a symbol for many things, such as the 7 deadly sins. And back in the past, religion was strictly enforced on people. So almost everyone probrably didn't like dragons.

[Ruberial Dragon]

In other words, it was biased with peer pressure; it would seem humans weren't very.....intelligent then (as if most of us are now.)

[liberatedragon]

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[RedDragon]

yea i'm a Red Dragon and I'm one of the Good ones

it is The Dragon Chose to be evil or good

[Blakdragon]

I agree with red and the comic, dragons CHOOSE if they want to be "good" or "evil".

Actually I think the reason for steriotyping is because an individuall is only exposed to the majority of the beings he steriotypes.
(for example, i know this is a bit racist, but a lot of poeple here in California would steriotype all Maxicans as very poor. This is true for a large part of the Mexicans who immagrate to California and true for a large part of Mexicans in Mexico, but it doesn't mean they're all poor.) So im guessing poeple steriotype red dragons as evil probably because a lot of them were evil.

[Rez3]

Logical thinking and I agree.

[Sardonyx44]

I think we can all agree that a dragon can choose his own path. im a law-abiding blue dragon.

[Shiori]

yes just like a red dragon who was once evil can also change. There is good and bad in every race like many said.

[Black Forbearance]

Haha, I think I speak for everyone, dragonkin or other, when I say screw D & D for their stereotypes that metallic dragons are good and non-metallics are evil. Red dragons are just as good as they can be evil

[Shiori]

yep now that i can really agree with!